the gallery that wanted me to deliver and install for freeI had a gallery ask me to deliver the work, install it myself, and pick it up after the show, all at my own cost. No mention of covering transport, no help with hanging. Just "you bring it, you hang it, you take it back." I said no and walked. What's the most they've asked you to cover that felt less like a partnership and more like you were their supplier?
the gallery that wanted me to deliver and install myself, is that standard?Had a gallery offer last year. Small space, not a bad spot. They wanted 50% and I had to deliver, install, label, and patch the walls on the way out. I told them no. Maybe that's normal now but it didn't sit right. What's the line for you? What are you willing to do and what makes you walk?
Drove 300 miles to install a piece and the client had painted the wall beigeDaughter talked me into posting the installs. So I post them. That part actually works, in a way I didn't expect. Two commissions this year came from a guy who found me through a photo of a finished piece in a courtyard in Vermont. What doesn't work is everything after the photo. I posted a shot of a limestone piece I finished in March, 400 pounds, four days of rigging to get it set. 1,100 views. Two comments. One was a bot selling something, the other was a guy telling me I should do reels. I did one reel. Thirty seconds of me chasing a chisel with a mallet. Took an hour to edit and I still don't know what a hook is. Nobody watched it. The commissions come from the phone calls, the guy who saw the piece in person and called me. That's still the whole business. The photos just remind people I'm alive. I don't think that's a problem with my account. I think it's the medium. A photograph of a sculpture tells you almost nothing. You can't walk around it, you can't see the scale, you can't feel the weight of the thing. What I'd want to post is the sound of the grinder or the way the light moves across a rough face at 4 in the afternoon, and I can't put that on a screen. So I keep posting the stills because the daughter asks me to, and because twice now it's paid for a truckload of stone. But I'm not going to pretend it's doing more than that.
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What did the gallery get wrong on your install? Mine put a 400 pound piece on a floor that couldn't take itI'll start. First real show, I trusted the gallery's guy to set the base for a 400 pound limestone piece. They had it on a raised floor over a crawlspace. I asked twice if it was framed underneath. Got a shrug both times. I shimmed it myself at 11 pm the night before the opening and it held, but I didn't sleep. So what's the worst thing a gallery has done to your work on install. Hung it wrong, lit it wrong, moved it without telling you, dropped it. I want the specifics.
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The plaza poured concrete for my installation today. Two years and three dead mockups to get here.Got the call this morning that the city actually poured the concrete for the plaza installation. That piece took me two years and three rejected mockups. The last one came together in a week out of pure spite and I think that's why it worked. What I'm proudest of is not the sculpture. It's that I welded the base myself instead of sending the fab work out. Took four days of grinding in the shop, looked younger than I feel. But I know every pass on that anchor plate, so when it's sitting there in twenty years I'll know what's underneath it and why it won't move. City said they'll send photos once the sidewalks go in. First public piece I've had in a while. Feels different than gallery work. More permanent, somehow. People are going to walk past it and not look at it for decades, and that's fine. That's what it's for.
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I charged a gallery €12,000 for a room-sized installation and after materials, transport, and the 4 months of work I made about €2 an hourI got a commission last year for a new piece at a decent European museum. 12k seemed like real money when I signed. Then I priced the steel, the timber, the electronics for the sound element, the rented van to haul it all, the two assistants I had to pay properly because I'm not an exploitative prick. By the time the thing was built and installed I'd spent about seven and a half. The rest covered four months of my life. I ate it because the work was good and I wanted it to exist and I'll probably do it again. The math never works if you count your own time. You have to not count it. That's the trick. You make art because you're compelled to and you finance it however you can and you pretend the hours don't exist. But sometimes late at night you do the math anyway and it's genuinely funny how bad it is. Like actually funny. I laughed out loud when I worked it out. Younger artists ask me how to price things. I tell them charge more than feels comfortable and then double it. Then I watch them not do that and I understand completely because I also don't do that.
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Sold a room, the buyer wanted the museum to unwire the alarm systemGallery sold one of my bigger installations last spring. Fine, good money, I thought it was over. Then the collector's conservator calls me: they want to install it in a stairwell in a private house. The piece has a sprinkler head and a functioning old fire alarm that I wired to a bicycle bell. It's not decorative. It goes off if the humidity shifts. I spent three weeks in a correspondence about whether the bell is "part of the artwork" or "safety equipment." Their lawyers had an opinion. My whole life's philosophy was in that email thread. Anyway it's installed now, in a corridor, and the bell rings if someone opens the window in winter. The collector loves it. Says it's alive. Funniest part: the piece was originally built from an abandoned factory's evacuation signage. I made it about how we don't hear warnings anymore. Now it's genuinely annoying them in their own house. Sometimes the work knows better than you do.
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The gallery put my installation on the poster. I asked them to use the photo of the rotted floor instead.They said no, of course. You cannot put a photograph of rotten floorboards on the front of a poster, people will think the building is falling down. Which it is, a little. That is the piece. So the poster has a nice wide shot of the whole room, everything lit evenly, you can see the arc of it, very impressive, and nobody walks in ready for the smell. The smell is half the work. Wet plaster and old wool and something I have never identified, from a mattress I took out of a skip in Žižkov in 2019. Visitors come in, they get the smell, and then they stand there for a while doing the arithmetic of what they are standing in. My point is not that marketing people are philistines. Half of them are better at reading a room than the curators. My point is that the thing that actually pulls someone off the street is almost never the thing that fits on the poster. It is the detail that sounds like a mistake. I have started keeping a folder. Every time someone photographs something small in one of my rooms and ignores the big obvious sculpture, I keep that photo. The rotted floor gets more phone time than the commissioned bronze. I do not know what to do with this information yet. I suspect it means the poster should be a close-up of something broken and the room should be discovered. The gallery will fight me. We will compromise, and the compromise will be worse than either idea, as usual.
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I charged 2,400 for a 60cm smalti panel and the client asked for the leftover tesseraeFinished and installed a 60 by 80 cm panel last month, a small olive tree, smalti and salvaged marble. I quoted 2,400 euros for it. That is materials, six weeks of setting, and the cement board, and I did the install myself with a hired van. The client paid without a word. Then, at the end, standing in the doorway with her coat on, she asked if she could have the leftover smalti. The offcuts. The bag of bits. I said yes because it is a bag of bits to anyone who does not cut stone. But those bits are 90 euros of material I already bought, and some of them are colours I will use again in March. I stood there holding a plastic bag of my own stock and feeling stupid about it. I have been thinking since about what I actually sold her. She thinks she bought the object. I think I sold six weeks and a bag of material and the bag got left on my floor. Nobody is wrong here, that is the annoying part. I am not going to start invoicing for offcuts. But I am going to start keeping them in a closed box before the client arrives, because apparently I need to organise my own generosity.
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The gallery sale where I netted less than the framerI sold a piece last year through a gallery in Berlin. Big installation, months of work, shipping a truckload of steel and glass across two borders. The collector paid 18,000 euros. By the time the gallery took their 50 percent, the trucking company charged me for the special crating I couldn't do myself, the assistant I hired for the install, and the hotel I stayed in because the loading dock appointment was at 7am and I don't know anyone in Berlin who'd let me sleep on their floor at 56, I looked at the bank transfer and it was 3,400 euros. The framer who built the crate made more than I did. I know because I asked him what he charged. He told me. Nice guy. He earned it. I'm not telling this as a sob story. I agreed to the terms. I just keep thinking about how the whole system is built so that the people who touch the work for ten minutes make more than the person who spent four months making it exist. And we all nod and say that's how it works. But it's funny, no. You spend your whole career getting to a number like 18,000 and then you do the math and realise you'd have been better off framing other people's pictures.
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What's the worst red flag you ever ignored because you wanted the show?I'll go first, so nobody has to be brave alone. About fifteen years back a small space in Germany offered me a solo. Nice walls, nice light, the director talked about my work like he understood it. What I ignored: he never once mentioned a budget. Not for transport, not for the install, not for anything. I said yes anyway because a solo is a solo and I was hungry for it. He was genuinely shocked when I asked who pays for the truck. Then he was shocked again when I said I would not pay it myself. Whole thing fell apart two weeks later. Best money I never spent. Your turn. What was the thing you saw early and told yourself wasn't a big deal? The contract that had no dates. The dealer who was rude to the installer. The commission that was never written down. I want the small ones especially. The huge red flags are easy to spot. It's the little ones everyone talks themselves past. Tell me yours.
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The commission I did the math on a year later and wished I hadn'tLast year a German foundation commissioned a permanent installation for their new building lobby. Big civic space, lots of foot traffic. They had the budget. I quoted €28,000. I spent six months collecting material. Three months building. Two weeks installing on site with a helper. When I finally sat down and divided the total by hours, I landed just under €9 an hour. Before tax. Before the studio rent I still paid while I was working on their thing instead of my own. I knew it while I was doing it. You always know. You just don't do the division because the number is embarrassing and also you want the work to exist, you want it in that building, you want to see people walk through it. So you pretend the math doesn't apply to you. I don't regret it. The piece is good. But I keep the calculation now. I write the hours down from the start. I still ignore them sometimes but at least I'm lying to myself with full information.
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I quoted 1,800 for a steel railing and the shop down the road did it for 900Client sent me photos of the finished job last week. Nine hundred euros, powder coated, installed. I went and looked at it because I am that kind of fool. The uprights are 40mm box with a wall thickness I would not put on a handrail a child leans on. Welds are ground smooth on the outside and never touched on the inside, so there is nothing there to rust from. Give it two winters on a coastal street and I know what it will look like. Nobody asked me. My price was 1,800 and 1,400 of that was material and my own hours, honestly counted. I cannot get under it without lying to myself about the time. The part that sticks is that the client was polite about it. Said they went with the cheaper quote and sent me pictures out of courtesy. Fine. That is how it works and I have no argument with them. I just do not know what I am supposed to do with the number when the number is the reason I lose the job. Dropping to 1,200 does not make the railing cheaper to make. It makes me slower and worse.
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How did you land your first gallery?How did you land your first gallery? Mine was pure dumb persistence. I was fabricating for a sculptor who had a show in a decent space, and I kept coming back to install and fix things. One day the owner asked who did the welding. I said me. She came to my studio a week later and took three pieces. No slideshow, no artist statement, no portfolio. Just the work in front of her. That was thirty years ago. I still think most of it is timing and someone seeing the actual object instead of the paperwork. What about you? Email with a portfolio, a walk-in, someone who knew someone? Or did it never happen the way you planned?
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I stopped tagging the work and engagement changedBeen posting the installations for two years now with the location, the materials, the whole little essay in the caption. Museum tags, artist tags, the works. Everything by the book. Last month I put up a photo of one room with nothing but the date. No title, no name, no hashtags except the gallery's because they insisted. I forgot to finish the caption, honestly, phone rang. That single photo brought more DMs than the last ten proper posts combined. People asking where it was, what it was made of, if they could come see it. Questions I would have answered in the caption nobody read. Not a lesson. Probably just the algorithm being tired of my voice too. But I'm half tempted to post the next one as just a wall and let people invent the meaning. That's what I do with found objects anyway. Let them find it.
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Commissioned a garden memorial in granite, quoted $2,400, spent 11 weeks on it, netted less than the delivery driver who hauled itWoman wanted a granite memorial bench for her husband's garden. Paid a $600 deposit up front, balance on delivery. I quoted $2,400, thinking that was about right for the material and shape. Then the granite I wanted had a two-month lead time. Then the supplier raised their price between order and delivery. Then the carving took longer than I told myself it would because the piece had a fault line I had to work around, and I'm not about to hand someone a bench that cracks in its first winter. Eleven weeks from deposit to install. Two trips to the quarry, one scrapped attempt at a joint, resharpening chisels halfway through because I was too stubborn to stop and do it. Netted out somewhere around $11 an hour if I count every hour. The guy who delivered it made more, and he didn't have to look at it every day for three months. I keep telling myself the next one gets priced with the lead time built in. Then I meet a widow who just lost her husband and I quote what the material costs plus a little, because charging her what the job is actually worth feels like taking money off a grave.
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The query I wish I'd asked a gallery before signingMine was "who handles the insurance while the work is on the wall?" Nobody mentions it, nobody puts it on paper, and when my first show got damaged in the install before it even opened, suddenly it was my problem. Live and learn. What's the one question you wish you'd asked before you signed with a gallery? The one that would've saved you a headache or a loss if you'd known to ask it.
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The gallery that wanted me to deliver with white glovesFirst gallery I ever worked with sent me a list of shipping requirements longer than their contract. Specific box dimensions, exact void fill, white gloves for handling, photos of every step. I thought it was ridiculous until the first piece arrived cracked because I skimped on the packing. What's the most unreasonable delivery or install requirement a gallery ever gave you? And did they turn out to be right?
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I quoted 14,000 euros for a room. The curator asked if that was per square metre.Last spring I sent a quote to a small Kunsthalle for a room installation. Fourteen thousand euros. Materials, three weeks of my time, the two students who help me weld and haul, transport from the depot in Holešovice, and the part nobody budgets for, which is the week at the end where you walk through the thing alone and move eleven objects until it stops feeling wrong. The reply came back the next morning. She asked whether the fourteen thousand was per square metre. I sat with that for a while. Not because she was being rude. Because she genuinely did not know what she was looking at. In her head a room of art is a quantity, like gravel or plasterboard, and it must have a unit price. Somewhere in her institution there is a spreadsheet column for that. I wrote back and said no, it is for the whole room, and then I halved it, because I wanted the show and because I am fifty-eight and still doing that. Seven thousand. She said it was a lot for a temporary project. I said nothing for two days. Then I signed. The thing I keep chewing on is that the number was never the problem. I could have held fourteen and she would have found it, institutions find money when they want the work. The problem is I have no vocabulary for defending the figure. I can talk about assemblage for an hour. Ask me why a room costs what it costs and I go quiet and discount myself like a man haggling over his own coat. I am told younger artists have this figured out. I hope so. It took me thirty years to learn to weld properly and I still cannot say a price out loud without apologizing in the same sentence.
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A gallery took 50 percent and I still had to pay for the wallSold two pieces in a small group show last month. 700 for the bigger one, 380 for the small one. Gallery took 50, which I'd agreed to, fine, that's the deal. Then the invoice came and there was a separate line for "installation materials." 40 euros. For the hooks and the little brass plate with my name on it. So I made 500 on 1080 worth of work and paid to have my own name spelled correctly on a wall. I keep telling myself the split is the cost of being seen, and it is, but nobody itemizes the cost of being seen at 40 euros before. I don't know what I'd have said if I'd known. Probably nothing. Anyone else get a line item that felt like a small insult dressed up as admin
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