Sold a quilt to a museum's gift shop for $400 and took me three weeks to makeThe museum down in Montgomery asked if I'd make a piece for their gift shop last fall. I was honored, genuinely. Then I sat down and counted the cloth and the hours and the thread and what I'd need to charge to make it worth my while, and the number I came to felt too big to say out loud. So I didn't say it. I said $400. Took me three weeks. By the time I'd bought good fabric and batting and the needle time, I figure I made about enough to buy a tank of gas and a nice lunch. My granddaughter about cried when I told her. She said, "Grandma, why'd you let them do you like that?" And I thought about it. And the truth is, the honor of it got me. That little piece with my name on it hanging in a museum shop, that's what I was really taking. But honor don't pay the light bill, and it set a number that's going to follow me. Now that shop thinks a Gloria Mae quilt costs $400. That's the price I gave them, so that's the price I get. I've made peace with it as a gift to the place. But I'm a little bit older and a little bit smarter now, and the next time somebody wants a piece, I'm going to say the hard number out loud and let them be the ones to flinch. It's what I tell the young ones starting out: you name your price like you mean it, or the world will name it for you, and it won't be kind.
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Charged a museum shop €150 for editioned prints and then did the math on what that actually pays me per hourA museum shop in Vienna picked up a small edition of my screenprints for their retail. I was thrilled, museum shop, right, that feels like validation. They paid €150 per print, wholesale. I sold them 20. I did the math yesterday because I was avoiding something else. Each print takes me about four hours from exposure to final trim, not counting the drawing time before that, not counting the screens I burned and then rejected, not counting the test proofs. So €150 for roughly six hours of work per print if I'm being generous about what counts as labour. That's €25 an hour if nothing goes wrong. Something always goes wrong. I'm not saying the museum shop ripped me off. That's just the going rate, they were fine to deal with. But I sat there thinking: I have an MFA, I've been doing this fifteen years, and I'm making €25 an hour selling to an institution that will mark it up to €400 and call it affordable art. And I said yes because I was flattered they asked. I don't know what the right number is. I just know that the gap between what feels good for the ego and what's actually sustainable keeps getting wider and I keep choosing the ego.
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Bought a $4 charcoal stick from the corner shop and it's doing things my fancy ones never didMy good willow charcoal ran out at 9pm and I needed to keep going on this piece so I walked to the corner shop and they had this cheap stick, no brand, wrapped in foil, four quid. I think it's for drawing on packaging not art. And it's making the fattest blackest marks I've ever gotten, like the stick is furious about being sold at a corner shop and taking it out on the paper. Should probably be annoyed I spent £40 on the fancy stuff but honestly most of my best work happens by accident or desperation. Give me a surface that might reject me and I show up better than I ever do with a clean setup. Maybe that's the whole thing. Maybe I should stop buying nice materials and just raid the corner shop forever. Not sure the piece is good but I'm lit right now about these marks. That's usually a bad sign. 😭
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painted an old chai shop on double road, think it's the best thing i've done this yearThere's this tiny chai shop near Shanti Nagar double road, been there for maybe forty years, tucked between a jewellery showroom and a building that's already been sold for redevelopment. I've been meaning to paint it for months but kept putting it off, too many people, too much traffic, too self-conscious to sit there with my sketchbook. Finally went this morning at 6am. Sat on a plastic stool, ordered chai I didn't even finish, and painted for two hours while the guy who runs the shop kept peering over my shoulder and saying "akka, colour kammi" meaning I wasn't using enough colour. He wasn't wrong. Came home and finished it on the table. And I don't know, I just sat there looking at it and felt something I don't feel often, like it actually came out the way I wanted. The light, the shadows from the awning, the old board with the faded name. Took a photo, sent it to my husband, and he said "that's the one" without me even asking. I never know how to take compliments on my work. But I think I'll frame this one. For myself.
bangaloreurbansketchingwatercolour
The shop boy asked me why I don't just print the peacocksYesterday I was sitting in the shop of the paper supplier on Station Road, waiting for my order, and the young boy there, maybe nineteen years, was watching me sketch a peacock on the back of a bill. He asked, very innocently, why I do not just make one good design on computer and print many copies. Same time, same money, no strain on the eyes. I did not get angry. He is a boy, he has only seen printed things. But I sat there and I could not make him understand that the peacock I draw today is not the peacock I drew last Tuesday. My hand was not in the same mood. The line goes thin here, thick there, according to how the brush is feeling that morning. That is the whole thing. That is the only thing. Then I came home and thought, honestly, is he wrong? Because the cooperative gives me the same rate whether I take two days or six. My son says the buyers in Delhi cannot tell the difference on a phone screen anyway. So some days I also ask myself why I am doing this slowly, and I have no clean answer. I only know that when I copy my own design neatly, twice, I feel like a photocopy machine and I do not want to feel like that. Thirty eight years of this work and one boy in a paper shop has put the whole question in front of me in two minutes.
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I charged a museum shop €80 for a risograph print and then saw the price tagMy brother's girlfriend works at a small museum in Verona, the kind with a decent contemporary collection and a shop that tries. She asked if I'd do an edition of risograph prints for them, small run, 50 copies. I said yes because family, because I liked the museum, because I told myself it was exposure with a little money attached. I charged €80 per print. My cost per print was about €4 in materials, so I felt fine about it. Generous even. I signed and numbered them, packed them myself, paid for shipping. She sent me a photo yesterday. They're on the shelf at €180. With a little acrylic display stand I didn't know about. And I sat with it. I get it, the museum has overhead, the shop has margins, the frame around the print is worth something. But I did the math on my time and it came out to something like €12 an hour including the design work. The museum is making a 125% markup on my labor and I'm the one who did everything but put it on the shelf. I don't know what the right number would have been. €120? €150? I'm scared to ask for that because I'm not a name yet and I keep thinking, what if they just say no and I lose the connection? But also, what's the connection worth if it's structured like this?
commissionsmuseumspricing
How did you land your first gallery? Mine was a tailor shop that had one empty wall.I'll go first since it's only fair. There's a tailoring shop near my old neighbourhood in Malleshwarigalli side, the owner had this long blank wall above the folding table and he was tired of looking at it. I used to sketch outside his shop most mornings, we'd got friendly, and one day he just asked if I wanted to hang some of the old house paintings there. Not a gallery, not a sale, just a wall. But it was the first time anyone asked, and I said yes before he finished the sentence. Two of them are still there. He refuses to take them down even though the wall's due for repainting. So, how did yours happen? The proper way, the accidental way, the mortifying way, all welcome. Was it a cold email, a friend of a friend, an open call you nearly didn't send, a walk-in that went badly or surprisingly well? I want to know the actual story, not the advice version. And tell me the truth about the first one. Did you sell anything, or did you just stand there beaming at your own frames?
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Charged a museum shop €2,200 for a welded steel piece. Took me six weeks and I ate the material costs.Quoted a museum shop €2,200 for a welded steel piece, thinking I'd build in some cushion. Took six weeks. Then I added up the steel, the oxygen, the acetylene, the grinding discs, the days I stood there deciding not to add one more curve and redid a joint that was already fine. Came out to about €11 an hour before tax. The shop sold it in a month. Marked up to €4,800. That part's on me, I set the number. But I keep thinking about the steel supplier who charged me more for the material than I'd budgeted and I just paid it, didn't even blink. Meanwhile I'll haggle with myself over my own labor for a week. I've been at this thirty years and I still price like I'm twenty-six and grateful for the work. Raising the next quote twenty percent regardless of what it costs me to say it out loud.
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was your first gallery actually a gallery? mine was a framing shop with two wallsI keep seeing people say "my first gallery" and I never know if we mean the same thing. Mine was a framing shop on the edge of the old town that hung local work on two walls and took 40%. It was technically a gallery. It felt like a shop with ambitions. But it was the first place anyone hung my pastels where a stranger could see them, so I count it. Did yours count? Proper gallery with a real program, or was it a cafe, a corridor, a hairdresser's, a friend's bookshop? And how long did you keep calling it your first gallery before you stopped? Mostly I want to know if I'm the only one quietly upgrading my own history 🙂
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A shop in Rua de Cedofeita wanted 12 small prints for Christmas stock. I said I'd think about it for three weeks.A small shop on Rua de Cedofeita asked if I could supply twelve small cyanotypes for their Christmas table. Twelve is not many. I said I would think about it and then thought about it for three weeks, which is embarrassing to admit. The money was fine. What I kept turning over was the word supply. If I make twelve in a batch, in one week, with the same mix and the same paper, they will be almost the same. Almost. Cyanotype does not really let you repeat. The sun here in November is weak and low, so a print that took twenty minutes in July takes an hour and a half now, and it shows, the blue goes softer. Seawater I collect at Foz, sometimes it is clear, sometimes full of sand after a storm. So twelve pieces that are meant to be identical will be twelve small arguments with the weather. I do not want to be the person who makes the same print twelve times. I also do not want to be precious about it, because a shop shelf is a real place and real people, and I am not so busy that I can pretend otherwise. In the end I said yes to six, different sizes, and told them plainly that no two will match. They seemed happy. I am still not sure if I was protecting the work or just stalling. If you make things by hand, how do you decide when a batch is still yours and when it has become a product? I genuinely do not know where that line sits for me.
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The TIG welder at the shop that's been acting up for six weeks and nobody will just fix itThere's a Miller Syncrowave 250 at the shared shop I work out of some days. Been there twenty years. Last month the high-frequency start started sputtering. Now it's catching about half the time. Rest of the time the arc wanders and you get this weird snake-track bead. I keep asking the guy who runs the place to call a service tech. He says he'll get to it. Meanwhile three of us are just working around it, wasting gas and tungsten, telling ourselves it's fine. It's not fine. A machine that old, you respect it or you replace it. You don't let it limp along getting worse. Anyone else dealing with equipment that needs real maintenance and nobody's stepping up? Or is it just my shop that runs on deferred repair.
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The studio lamp died and the shop only had LEDsMy daylight lamp gave up after seven years, the one I've matched every colour against. So today I went to the shop and the only full-spectrum option they had was an LED panel that hums and makes everything look slightly blue-green. I tried to match a skin tone I've mixed a hundred times and it came out wrong, muddy, like a bruise. I know it's just a lamp. I know. But I sat there for about twenty minutes convinced I've forgotten how to paint, that all those years of doing this were a fluke and now the one lamp that knew me is gone. Then I remembered I'd left the blinds open and there was actual sun coming in, so the whole panic was literally just bad lighting. Still painted the whole afternoon under the hum anyway because I'd already dragged the thing up the stairs and I'm stubborn. Anyone else have one piece of kit that's basically furniture now and the thought of replacing it is worse than the actual replacement?
lightingself-doubtstudio
The thing about shop lights nobody tells youBeen fighting with shop lighting for thirty years and I'm still not sure I've got it right. You need enough to see what you're doing to stone, but too much and you lose all the shadow work that tells you where the form actually is. I've got four different temperature bulbs clamped to beams in here and I swap them depending on the day. Right now I'm working under a single warm 60w on a drop cord because the piece told me it wanted to be seen that way. Sounds ridiculous. It's not.
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i charged a local coffee shop $400 for four large paintings and they framed them over the edgesso i did this thing a few months ago where a neighborhood coffee shop asked for four 24x36 acrylic pieces. walls are big, they wanted "something colorful," easy brief. i quoted $400 for all four because i'm an idiot and thought "bulk discount" like i'm selling socks. $100 per painting. that's like $2.60 an hour if you count the sketching and the repainting and the repainting again because acrylic dries fast and i hate myself. finally deliver them. they're thrilled. two weeks later i walk in for coffee and they've framed them in these cheap black frames from michael's. completely covering the edges. i paint the edges. that's like. a thing i do. the sides are part of it. they just. framed over them. i didn't say anything. i drank my latte and left. still haven't said anything. $400 and my edges are in framing jail forever.
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how did you get your first real gallery meeting? mine came from a shop owner who just liked my window paintingsok so I still don't totally know how this works and I've been full-time for like eight months so maybe I'm the last person who should be asking, but I'm curious how people actually got their FIRST sit-down with a gallery, like the real one, not a group show where nobody buys anything (been there lol). mine was kind of dumb luck. there's this little frame shop near me and the owner kept seeing my stuff on instagram and one day she was like "you should talk to so-and-so, she runs the space two doors down" and I did and it went ok and we're figuring something out for spring. so basically a stranger did my networking for me haha. but I know that's not how it works for most people and I kind of hate that I don't have a system yet. did you cold email? walk in with a portfolio? get introduced by another artist? apply to something and get lucky? I want the actual story, including the awkward parts. tell me yours and I'll feel less like I'm faking it over here 🙂
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i asked a local shop to stock my prints and they said yes and now i'm panickingwas tired of getting ratio'd by the algorithm so i walked into a coffee shop near my studio with a folder of prints like a medieval merchant. owner said "these are nice, let's do a trial" and i walked out and immediately thought oh no now i have to actually produce physical things at a predictable cadence. i've been doing this long enough to know this is a good thing. but the shift from "post and hope" to "a real person is expecting these by friday" is messing with my head. anyone else get the ick when something actually works?
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the guy at the framing shop just called my painting "decorative" like it was an insulti brought in a 30x40 acrylic for a commission frame job and the guy behind the counter goes "oh nice, decorative" with this little smirk. like yeah dude that's one of the functions of art. i hang it on walls. it's visually pleasing. do you want me to be miserable every time i look at it or what. i should've said something but i just did the customer service grimace smile and said "yep that's me" and now i'm mad about it in retrospect which is worse. if you're gonna be a framing shop art critic at least have the spine for me to argue back while we're both standing there.
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The shop is 38 degrees and my chisels are in the house wearing coatsIt's so cold in the shop right now the marble feels different under the chisel. Stiff. Holds the cut too long and then lets go all at once. I've worked stone in this kind of cold plenty of times, you just go slower or you bust it. But my hands are 61. They don't warm up like they used to. Twenty minutes in and the fingers are telling me things I don't want to hear. Dragged a propane heater out this morning and it's doing just about nothing against a concrete floor and a tin roof. I keep my good chisels in the house this week like they're houseplants. Nobody warns you that the cold part of the work gets harder than the heavy part. I can still move a two hundred pound block around, but I can't keep my own hands above fifty degrees. That's the trade, I guess. The strength stays longer than the circulation.
agingstone-carvingstudio
My granddaughter put me on Etsy. I sold one potholder in March.I don't know that I'm doing any of this right, so I'll just tell it plain. My granddaughter set me up a shop back in the fall. Said folks would buy my work online. So I put up four pieces, took the pictures on my kitchen table with a dish towel behind them for a background, and then I sat there and waited like a hen on a nest. March I sold one potholder. Five dollars. But here's the thing that's got me thinking. The quilts I post on here, the big ones, the ones I spent a year on? People look but they don't buy, and I understand it, you don't buy a quilt off a phone from a stranger in Alabama. What sold was the little thing. Something small enough to hold in your hand and cheap enough not to think too hard about. Then last month a lady in Seattle bought a quilt. Said she saw it on here and went and found the shop herself. I never once mentioned the shop on my page. Not one time. So I don't know what to make of that. I put the sign out front and nobody came in. I hung the quilt on the line and somebody knocked on the door. Maybe that's just how it works and nobody told me. Or maybe I'm still fooling with it wrong. I'm 63 years old and I've been sewing since I was seven. I know cloth. I do not know this. 🙂
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finally dropped off the 6 pieces to the reuse shop and one of them got picked up in 20 minsix months of stuff was stacked in the corner of the studio. not art, just things. a broken fan, two crates of a friend's old slides, a lamp with the cord cut. i kept meaning to deal with it. dropped the whole lot at the reuse place on saturday. told myself i was done. got home and someone had already taken the lamp. 20 minutes. i don't know why that landed so hard. some stranger wanted the ugly thing i couldn't fix. i keep thinking about who they are and what room it's in now. i've been circling a piece about repair for a year and can't get the obvious version of it to mean anything. turns out you can't fake that from the studio.
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